Kyle Wiggs / Writing / Portfolios & risk

Portfolios & risk

How to talk about fees

The discomfort is almost entirely about timing. Advisers who raise it early find it is not a difficult conversation at all.

Raise it before they do

A fee introduced by the adviser is information. A fee extracted by the client is a negotiation.

Same number, entirely different frame, decided by who spoke first.

Give the whole number

Not just the advisory fee. Underlying fund expenses, platform or TAMP fees, and anything else the client pays.

Clients discover the layers eventually. Discovering them later feels like something was concealed, even when it was disclosed in a document they signed.

Say what it is in dollars

A percentage is abstract. An annual figure in currency is what they will actually pay, and it is what they will compare to other things they buy.

Advisers avoid this because the number sounds larger. It sounds larger because it is the truth.

If the dollar figure is uncomfortable to say out loud, that discomfort is information about your value proposition, not about your pricing.

Do not justify by performance

It is a claim you cannot make and should not want to. It also sets an expectation that will eventually be disappointed by conditions you do not control.

Justify by what you do — the actual inventory.

Handle the comparison honestly

When a client raises a cheaper alternative, agree that it is cheaper. Then describe what is different, without disparaging it.

Some clients will choose it. Those were usually going to.

Disclose the conflict in your own pricing

An asset-based fee means you are paid less if a client withdraws to pay off a mortgage or buy a business. Saying that out loud, before the situation arises, is unusual and it is very hard to argue with.

Then stop talking about it

Fee conversations become difficult when they are continuous. Say it clearly once, put it in writing, and let the work be the argument.